最近“工业大摸底”在网上很热闹,很多人就说了,我国可是世界第一大工业国、全世界唯一一个完整工业体系的国家,随便从屁股兜里边翻出几件稀罕物那不是理所应当吗?但这个事坏就坏在话只说一半,拿出一点地摊文学上的爽文情节来博眼球,然后把更重要的部分故意漏掉了,把艰苦卓绝的技术研究戏化为娱乐段子,不得不说这是对我国科技领域和科学工作者的一起“捧杀”。
Let me tell you, the industrial survey spread online is mixed with false information. China has conducted three industrial surveys with clear records, each in 50 years, 86 years, and 95 years, corresponding to the founding of the country, reform and opening up, and industrial transformation.
网传的工业大摸底是混杂着不实信息网络爽文而已。中国有三次工业摸底,都是有明确记录的,50年,86年,95年各一次,对应建国,改革开放,工业转型。
It is not necessary to conduct a national industrial survey now because all enterprises have a lot of information to report, especially for high enterprises, specialized, refined, and new industries, and large-scale industries. There is a lot of data to be reported and submitted for each quarter and year.
现在应该是不太需要做全国工业调查了,因为所有的企业都有很多信息要填报,尤其高企、专精特新、规上工业,季度年度各口径都有很多数据要填报上交。
Moreover, these data cannot be filled in randomly by enterprises. From bottom to top, information statistics, macroeconomic regulation from top to bottom, combined with the State Intellectual Property Administration and the Ministry of Science and Technology, the invisible experts are not blind. It is impossible not to know what advanced and leading technologies our country has, and they need to conduct a thorough investigation to know "Oh, so we still have this powerful thing in our country?"
而且这些数据企业是不能乱填的,从下至上信息统计,从上至下宏观调控,再加上国家知识产权局、科技部,无形的大手并不是瞎子,不可能不知道自己国家有什么先进水平领先的技术,还得专门搞一个摸底上面才知道“哦,原来我们家还有这厉害玩意儿?!”
The bustling industrial survey circulating online has revealed that aircraft carrier arresters, carbon fiber, coatings, and SF drones are all 70% real and 30% virtual.
网上现在传的沸沸扬扬的工业大摸底,摸出了:航母阻拦索、碳纤维、涂料、顺丰无人机等,都是七分实三分虚。
According to the financial report of Guisheng, 80% of the ropes used on China's first aircraft carrier were produced by the company, and the company also stated that producing obstruction ropes is its strength.
贵绳财报显示我国第一艘航母上用的绳80%都是由该公司生产的,该公司还表示,生产阻拦索是公司的强项。
The online rumor that Juli Company does not even have the necessary four certificates for military production (weapon and equipment quality management system certificate, weapon and equipment research and production unit confidentiality certificate, equipment manufacturing unit qualification review certificate, weapon and equipment research and production license).
网传的巨力公司连军工生产必需的军工四证都没有(武器装备质量管理体系证、武器装备科研生产单位保密证、装备承制单位资格审查证、武器装备科研生产许可证)。
The research on aircraft carrier arresters can be traced back to the 707 project, starting with the 891 project. The research and development unit is AVIC, and Juli is a contract manufacturing unit.
航母阻拦索的研究可以追溯到707工程,开始应该是891工程,研发单位是中航工业,巨力是代工单位。
The twin tailed scorpion drone developed by Sichuan Tengdun Technology is itself a weapon, just painted with SF Express; The company profile reads: The company's products cover two major fields of military and civilian use, and this company itself is a typical case of military to civilian conversion. Tengdun was originally half military and half civilian, and its founder came from the army.
四川腾盾科技研发的双尾蝎无人机,本身就是武器,只不过做了个顺丰的涂装而已;公司简介写着:公司产品覆盖军民用两大领域,这个公司,本身就是个军转民的典型案例。腾盾本来就是半军半民,创始人就是部队出来的。
The Guangwei fishing gear is even more ridiculous. In fact, Guangwei composite materials are one of the only two military carbon fiber suppliers in China; The industry analysis of the company also states that under the guidance of military applications, domestically produced carbon fibers have made significant progress and solved the bottleneck problem. The company implements a military civilian integration development strategy of integrating military and civilian, prioritizing military products, sharing military civilian benefits, supporting the people with the military, and promoting interactive development between military and civilian products.
光威渔具那个更扯了,实际光威复材是我国仅有的两个军用碳纤维供应商之一;公司所处行业分析也写着:在军工应用的牵引下,国产碳纤维取得了长足的进步,解决了卡脖子的问题,公司实行寓军于民、军品优先、军民公用、以军养民、军民品互动发展的军、民融合发展战略。
Chen Guangwei's biography clearly states that at the beginning, several state-owned enterprises and schools were collaborating on the 304 special project of high-strength carbon fiber, and private enterprises were simply not on the list.
陈光威传里写的很清楚,刚开始就是几个国企和学校的联合在搞高强度碳纤维这个304专项,民营企业根本排不上号。
The local regulatory authorities in Weihai have reported several reports on the production of high-strength carbon fibers but have not received attention. It was Guangwei Group that volunteered to obtain an opportunity for sampling and testing, competing with six other units on the same stage, and joining the competition with several other national teams with the closest (but not yet achieved) parameter indicators. Later, the material science expert Changxu also came to visit, Highly praised Guangwei's spontaneous participation in national defense construction.
威海当地的主管部门几次上报高强度碳纤维生产的消息都没有获得重视,是光威集团毛遂自荐,争取到一次抽样检测的机会,和其他6个单位同台竞技,以最接近(但当时还没达到)参数指标的成绩得以加入和其他几个国家队的竞赛,后来材料学泰斗师昌绪也来参观,对光威自发参与国防建设给予了高度评价。
Later, Guangwei participated in a large number of military projects, which led to the development of Guangwei composite materials. The development of carbon fiber was indeed initiated by private enterprises at the beginning, but this was more than a decade ago, not something that has been figured out now.
后来光威大量参与军队项目,才有了光威复材,碳纤维的研制一开始的的确确是民营企业自发行为,但这是十多年前的事情了,不是现在什么摸底出来的。
The above are clearly the best examples of the integration of military and civilian in China, but unfortunately, they have been overestimated by a thorough investigation.
以上这些明明是国内军民大融合的最佳典范,但,偏偏被大摸底给以偏概全了。
Don't use strategic deception as a shield to spread false information. Originally, military to civilian conversion was a good thing, but the result had to be distorted to put the cart before the horse. If others really believe that after decades of development in China, the country has no understanding of the capabilities of private enterprises, and the military industry, which enjoys the best resources, still lacks this and which one is lacking, while private enterprises can easily produce results, guess what kind of ideology is good and what kind of ideology is bad without reason?
以讹传讹就别拿战忽当挡箭牌了,本来军转民就是好事,结果非得歪曲得本末倒置。要是别人真信了,以为中国发展几十年下来国家对民企的能力毫无了解,享受最好资源的军工行业一路努力下来依旧缺这个缺那个,而民企反手就能轻松拿出成果,你猜猜他们会无端推理出什么主义好,什么主义坏呢?
I also remember one thing. Yesterday was the 13th anniversary of the first flight of the J-20, and I used to see netizens in various comment sections confidently claiming that the NATO code name of the J-20 was Fire Fang or Fire Tooth, to prove its prowess.
我还想起一件事,昨天是歼20首飞13周年,以前经常在各大评论区看到网友言之凿凿地说歼20的北约代号是Fire Fang或者Fire Tooth(火焰獠牙),用来佐证歼20的厉害。
As a novice who didn't understand, I searched curiously and found that the code name was not written on Wikipedia and mainstream Western military news. Even if I continued to search, I couldn't find the specific source of the code name. At least the comments from netizens in the comment section were unreliable, so I can only suspect that this is another case of "exporting to selling domestically" in a cool article. The recent trend of "industrial bottom-up" has become increasingly outrageous and familiar
作为不懂的小白,好奇之下搜了搜,却发现维基百科和西方主流军事新闻上并没有写这个代号,继续搜也没有找到代号的具体来源,至少评论区网友们给各种说辞都不靠谱,所以我只能怀疑这又是一个爽文“出口转内销”的案例。“工业大摸底”最近也是越传越离谱,是熟悉的味道……
We cannot simply believe in the myth of the so-called industrial bottom-up and completely disregard the unremitting efforts of generations of military workers. We assume that the fact that the private enterprise, the protagonist of the counterattack story, lacks four certificates and empirical information that does not conform to the story, is classified as confidential. They are only willing to listen to the ups and downs of the refreshing literature on the counterattack myth, and cannot hear the fact that generations of military workers are ordinary but dedicated to the dry research and development process
我们不能只相信所谓工业大摸底摸出来的神话而完全抛开一代代军工人的不懈努力,想当然的把逆袭故事主角的民营企业连四证缺失和实证消息不符合故事的事实归类为保密,他们已经只愿意听取跌宕起伏的爽文逆袭神话,而听不进一代代军工人平平淡淡却呕心沥血的枯燥研发过程的事实
This is the same thing as the story of Goldbach's conjecture, which was spread in the 1980s and 1990s when civil mathematicians ate Mantou and hid in a cottage in the countryside.
这玩意和上世纪80、90年代流传的,民科数学家啃着馒头,躲在乡下茅屋里完全证明了哥德巴赫猜想的故事本质上是一样的。
Today, with the development of modern science, both basic science and engineering applications have developed extremely high professional barriers. Ordinary people have no idea what is going on inside, so it is easy to believe these cool stories.
现代科学发展到今天,无论是基础科学还是工程应用,都已经发展出极高的专业壁垒,普通人根本就不知道里面是在干什么,所以容易相信这些爽文故事。
You should know that once the theory of quick victory fails, it is easy to move towards surrenderism.
要知道速胜论一旦失败就容易走向投降主义。
There are a large number of people in our country who are buried in "forging swords" for various reasons, such as the collective nature of the achievements, the inability to expose them at present, obtaining technological breakthroughs through other means, sanctioning rewarded scientists, restricting international exchanges and entry, and even being easily targeted by enemy spies..
我国有大量埋头“铸剑”的人群,因为各种原因,比如成果本身就是集体的,比如当下无法曝光成果,比如通过别的手段获得科技突破,比如被奖励的科学家被制裁,限制国际交流和入境,甚至是容易被敌方特务盯上等等。。
As for the above reasons, even if national or even world-class scientific breakthroughs are achieved firsthand, the parties involved and enterprises must continue to remain anonymous and continue to invest in the next scientific research project.
至于以上原因,即便亲手获得了国家级甚至是世界级科研突破,当事人和企业也得继续隐姓埋名,继续投入到下一个科研项目中去。
As researchers from latecomer countries, it is indeed full of helplessness. They cannot boast about their achievements like the United States, Europe, Japan, and South Korea, and give themselves awards to play with.
作为后发国家的科研人员来说,其中确实充满无奈,不能像美欧日韩那样一有点成就就大吹特吹,自己给自己颁奖玩。
Technology has always required enormous human, material, and financial resources, combined with the accumulation of time, to achieve such a small breakthrough. Some domestic news media fabricate some technology news articles that catch people's attention and incite emotions without verifying them. This exaggerated trend cannot be blown away.
科技从来都是耗费了巨大的人力物力财力再加上时间的沉淀才能取得那么一丁点的突破,国内有些新闻媒体不去查证就杜撰一些科技爽文夺人眼球煽动情绪,这股浮夸风可吹不得。
Moreover, any private enterprise is responsible for its own profits and losses. Developing new products and materials requires a huge amount of capital investment and may not necessarily be successful. So, the problem arises. Without a bottom line, do you think you would gamble on developing something that doesn't know when it will have a market? And private enterprises that truly have the ability to do so are not small businesses themselves, so their things will be unknown for many years and suddenly discovered?
而且任何民营企业是自负盈亏,开发新产品新材料都是需要巨额的资金投入还不一定成功,那么问题来了,没兜底的情况, 你觉得你会赌上一切开发一个不知道啥时候才有市场的玩意?而且真的有能力这样做的民营企业本身就不是小企业,那么他的东西会默默无闻好多年,突然被摸底出来?
Every time I see such fake information, I feel that the value of Teacher Zhang Xuefeng is still increasing.
每次看到这种一眼假的信息都会感慨张雪峰老师的含金量还在上升。
However, if one day, our economy, technology, and national defense can fully surpass the world, and all countries except us are eager to see which breakthrough in our technology circle can come soon, then the so-called "dragon" of treasure mining scientific research achievements will not appear again..
不过,如果哪一天,我们经济科技国防能全面凌驾于全球,除我们之外的所有国家都眼巴巴关注我们科技圈又有哪项突破的那一天能早日到来的话,所谓挖宝式科研成果这种“乌龙”就不会再出现了吧。。

